Chief(s) Signing Issues

June 16, 2008 by bigknoxy · Leave a Comment
Filed under: Carl Peterson, Featured, KC Chiefs Football 

I read very good comparative article by Chris at Arrowhead Pride. I had some thoughts on the same subject so I thought I would share.

Here is a little base information:

Chris compared this Bob Gretz article from kcchiefs.com that most agree is in response to this one from Jon at MVN. Jon is trying to prove that the Chiefs have issues signing players (esp. high draft picks). He uses some of the following as indications:

  • Ryan Sims’ Dad made a pretty glaring accusation a few months ago that Carl Peterson has a history of low-balling first round picks. He claims that at the NFL Draft, many NFL teams warned him about Peterson’s ways
  • First round hold outs of the Chiefs. Here is a quote from his article
    “Quietly, Peterson has racked up a very lousy recent track record of bringing first round picks to camp on time. Dwayne Bowe was a holdout. Tamba Hali made it to camp literally hours before camp started. Derrick Johnson was a holdout (albeit, a short one). Ryan Sims was a holdout. John Tait was a holdout. Sylvester Morris was a holdout. The only recent player to make it to camp in plenty of time was Larry Johnson. “

On the other hand Gretz goes on to say “who could possibly think otherwise that the Chiefs drag their feet and are extra tough in negotiations, especially when it comes to their earliest selections. “ Then he goes on to say that in the most recent five year period (2003-2007) the Chiefs rank in the middle of the pack as far as getting their first round picks signed.

While I can see some points on both sides  I would have to say that I tend to agree with Jon from MVN on this subject. One reason is this: Gretz kind of twisted the stats a bit to prove his point in my opinion. If his article really was a response to the MVN article then when he said the Chiefs are in the middle of the pack as far as getting players in on time, what is he trying to prove? I thought the point was that King Carl has a history of getting first round picks signed late (after practices start), not how it compares to other teams. Late is still late, no matter if the majority of teams are late or not.

Another problem I have with the Gretz article is his really small sample size. I took a stats class in college and you really don’t need one to figure out this sample population is jacked and here is why: If the Chiefs had signed one more player on time instead of holding out I’m pretty sure they would be in the top five in those calculations, and if one more would have held out then they would be in the bottom five. Any time one number can have that kind of drastic affect the sample size is way to small.

If you want to be fair you should compare all of the years Carl Peterson has been in control and then compare that to the rest of the NFL. Let me know what you find out, but I think I have a general idea.

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